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Re: Chainey's Spam Topic (POST HERE CHAINEY!)

Postby Talho » Sun Jul 12, 2009 14:32:57

um i think you're seeing it a bit wrong :p having 2 screens means mostly the 2nd screen is just an extended desktop of the first screen. (so 2nd screen is mostly an empty screen without any shortcuts or the start menu). You can also mirror the screens but that only has a use for presentations


anyway I dont think you need 2 graphic cards, something that can convert one port (like a switch box) to two ports.

or having vga&dvi (& hdmi) might work also
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Postby Baby-Boo » Sun Jul 12, 2009 15:23:25

But that's how one guy played on 3 wow accounts at the same time, and another guy watched a movie on one moniter at full screen, while he did something alse on the other one, it wasn't extended. If by extended you mean that it's like a really really widescreen because those 2 are combined.

I am going to buy this thing below, it costs 3200$ in Norway. Best drawing tablet there is.
I can either do 2 things. I can simply connect it, and the things I do on the tablet will the same stuff that goes on, on the actually minitor. But then there is a the dual minitors. I am working on the tablet doing my stuff, while I got the other minitor doing something alse. It just gets boring when working so long, so I want another monitor at least have a movie going, even though I might not be watching it.

Or I'll just untill I get it, and then check things out.

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Re: Chainey's Spam Topic (POST HERE CHAINEY!)

Postby RandomTask » Sun Jul 12, 2009 16:47:44

I have two 24" widescreen 1080p monitors.

Most modern graphics cards will have two outputs (mine has 2 DVI out, some are one DVI one VGA - it doesnt matter so long as there is two).

You can either have one start bar on one monitor and none on the other, have it extend right the way across both, or have a 'smartbar' on each which is essentially two start bars, which recognise which windows are on which monitor and show these on the correct start bar.

I use my right hand monitor for games etc, and then have tv/msn/etc open on the other so I can see both at the same time. Ofc if I'm not gaming this means I can have full screen surfing on one and full screen tv on the other, or surf research on one and type essays on the other etc.

I would never go back to a single monitor, its about the best upgrade for multitasking you can get...

Typically I have it something like this:

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...where I would either be browsing or gaming on the right, with the start bar acting as a division between the two screens (and it keeps the start bar nice and central so it's easy to get too) with tv/msn on the other (as well as the start bars clock, which is handy).

As an aside with my new PC I will be getting a third 'monitor'. Ill keep these two connected as are, albeit to an SLI setup rather than a single card, then get a third card and plug a 48" TV to it to use as my main TV (through a TV card) or as a monitor when I'm not watching TV. Could also put a switch in to use it for games... If I really felt like it.


Talho wrote:
anyway I dont think you need 2 graphic cards, something that can convert one port (like a switch box) to two ports.

or having vga&dvi (& hdmi) might work also


A port switching box just does the same job as mirroring, you dont get two seperate screens.

One card with either VGA+DVI, 2 VGA, 2 DVI, or DVI+HDMI ports would work.

If your card only has one port you will need either a second card (assuming your motherboard has two slots), or a new card with two ports.

If you want triple screens you need two cards with at least 3 ports, both of which run on the same graphics driver, eg. 2 nVidia 8xxx cards.

You can also do SLI on two cards supporting 2 monitors and get a third monitor on a third card, so long as ALL the cards run under the same driver (which is how my new PC will be set up with 2GTX 280s and one 8800GT).

 
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Postby Baby-Boo » Sun Jul 12, 2009 17:09:44

well, I won't have the tablet as a permament second screen. I will only use it when I work on my art. So if there is no problem expanding you screen like you do, then I can go back and forth. Do you need a program or something to expand?

I havn't opened my computer since I got it way back. Since it's pretty old, but not that old, I guess I doesn't have 2 outputs. But I'll check. I don't even know how a video card looks like though... and where the 2 outputs are..

Does it mather how powerful the video card is? My brother recently bought a new computer, and I don't know how powerful the last video card is. I do know it's a very weak one compared to todays ones.

I only need this at one computer. There is a laptop in the biggest room in my house and a big tv, so I don't need anything there, I only need the tablet screen.

Thanks for the info guys :D

Are you gonna play WoW, chat on msn, and watch a movie at the same tie now? :O
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Re: Chainey's Spam Topic (POST HERE CHAINEY!)

Postby RandomTask » Sun Jul 12, 2009 17:15:43

The ports are just on the back of the case, you don't even need to open it. Just follow the wire from the back of your monitor and see if there would be the right port to plug another one in.

AFAIK tablets etc plug in via USB/Firewire, so you dont even need a second monitor port... But I havn't really looked at them much so might be wrong...

I've had two screen for about 7 years, so I imagine if your PC was half decent when you got it, and its not older than 7 years you would be able to have two screens.

As far as telling it to 'expand' all you do it right click on the desktop, go to display properties and enable any second screen you might have plugged in. Simple as that.

As a note, when running a fullscreen program like a game etc, you cant type to people on msn (how would the game work out whether you were pressing W to run forward or if you were pressing W to type to someone) - you have to alt tab to actually type to someone or fast forward tv etc (or run the game in windowed mode), but it's fine for seeing who is online/who is trying to talk to you/watching through a program normally.

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Postby Baby-Boo » Sun Jul 12, 2009 17:35:10

oh yeah that knowledge was in my mind, but for some reason I thought I would have to go inside and plug it from the inside. I don't know why I thought that.

This is a Wacom Cintiq 21UX tablet. And yeah, I feel so stupid. There are more than one way to connect it, totally forgot. According to a picture, the item comes with these connections:

Power connector thingy
USB
DVI
DVI- VGA
DVI-D-DVI-I

I guess the DVI is the one you connect to the card.

I think my computer is about 3-4 years old. Does it matter that it got an ATI card inside while the other one is an Nvidia? I don't understand ATI, they confuse me, I like Nvidia.

For some reason I thought you had 2 keyboards attached to the monitors. But I forgot that you connect them to the computer... Sometimes I just don't think.

Ye I know you don't play, so many people play here that it just slipped in.
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Postby RandomTask » Sun Jul 12, 2009 17:56:15

Oh I see, just took a look at the product page and realised its a draw on screen thing, not just a blank tablet like all the ones I've ever seen, so yes you will need either a VGA or a DVI port.

Just google them if you're unsure which each looks like and if you have one free, it will be next to the cable going to your current monitor if you have one.

From the sounds of it if the worst comes to the worst you can unplug your normal monitor and plug that thing in instead.

Do you mean your PC has ATI and your bro's nVidia? If so then no, that doesnt matter. Any monitor works with any PC, and that tablet is no different.

 
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Postby Baby-Boo » Sun Jul 12, 2009 18:43:23

RandomTask wrote:Oh I see, just took a look at the product page and realised its a draw on screen thing, not just a blank tablet like all the ones I've ever seen, so yes you will need either a VGA or a DVI port.

Just google them if you're unsure which each looks like and if you have one free, it will be next to the cable going to your current monitor if you have one.

From the sounds of it if the worst comes to the worst you can unplug your normal monitor and plug that thing in instead.

Do you mean your PC has ATI and your bro's nVidia? If so then no, that doesnt matter. Any monitor works with any PC, and that tablet is no different.


Best there is. Although in USA they have one in widescreen size. I have a blank one now, but I want to draw and color on the screen. I'll tell how it goes when I get it.
Okay so DVI or VGA port if I want extended. And USB if I want... :?: that question I will have to experience my self.

Yeah I can just change it to the tablet, but it gets boring from time to time, so I want a movie on another screen going on.

Yeah I got ATI and he has NVIDIA. Alright then :D

Thanks :D looking forward to when they pay me my salary for working there for 3 weeks, and then I spend all of that the same day. Maybe the second day, I can't order with my card, I am only 17. I might need to transfer all that money to my mom's credit card.
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Re: Chainey's Spam Topic (POST HERE CHAINEY!)

Postby King » Sun Jul 12, 2009 22:11:20

VGA / DVI will be for the screen part of it, the USB will be for the touch part of it. i.e. like ur current tablet is (i imagine, most are usb these days).
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Re: Chainey's Spam Topic (POST HERE CHAINEY!)

Postby Baby-Boo » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:27:10

King wrote:VGA / DVI will be for the screen part of it, the USB will be for the touch part of it. i.e. like ur current tablet is (i imagine, most are usb these days).


ah okay thanks :D

90% of Wacom tablets use USB, but mine uses bluetooth. I didn't buy it, a teacher gave me because he never used it and he thought I was good (I can't say no). I would have bought one with USB, because my computer didn't have bluetooth, so I had to buy bluetooth USB thingy.

It's an old model.

I don't wanna unplug the blue one, but I guess it's also white inside. They look the same so I can use 2 monitors and don't need a second video card.

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